Gah! I bloody knew it!

Twizzle · May 26th, 2004, 05:29 PM

I tell you Donna, all this nonsense really makes me want to ring up/e-mail ALL of the UK radio station and request ALL his songs for ALL of his fans, his Sony management and his 'team' just to thumb my nose at this whole ridiculous affair. The only things stopping me are a) I don't have the time to do it (or the inclination *g*), b) contrary to what certain ppl might think of me, I really wouldn't want to damage his ever dwindling UK career any further and c) well, I really don't give a shit *lol*. The ONLY reason that I'd consider doing any of this is if I thought I was getting one over on the self-serving; self-righteous; self-styled "Queen of the Fanbase" [img]tongue.gif[/img]

BBD · May 26th, 2004, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Twizzle:
I tell you Donna, all this nonsense really makes me want to ring up/e-mail ALL of the UK radio station and request ALL his songs for ALL of his fans, his Sony management and his 'team' just to thumb my nose at this whole ridiculous affair. The only things stopping me are a) I don't have the time to do it (or the inclination *g*), b) contrary to what certain ppl might think of me, I really wouldn't want to damage his ever dwindling UK career any further and c) well, I really don't give a shit *lol*. The ONLY reason that I'd consider doing any of this is if I thought I was getting one over on the self-serving; self-righteous; self-styled "Queen of the Fanbase" [img]tongue.gif[/img]

^ ^ ^ ^
LOL, that's really made me chuckle Terry!!

The sad thing is thought is that I used to enjoy going over there, I used to have a laugh over there and enjoy reading the posts, joining in etc, but now I very rarely log in and when I do it's just the same old shit all the time and to be honest I really can't be arsed with it any more!!!

Yep,I'm still a fan, yep I'm really looking forward to the new album but as for all the hyperactivity and the bitching and squabbles over there, count me out.... I've got 4 kids so I have enough of that at home LOL!!!!! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Twizzle · May 26th, 2004, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by BBD:
The sad thing is thought is that I used to enjoy going over there, I used to have a laugh over there and enjoy reading the posts, joining in etc, but now I very rarely log in and when I do it's just the same old shit all the time and to be honest I really can't be arsed with it any more!!!

Yep,I'm still a fan, yep I'm really looking forward to the new album but as for all the hyperactivity and the bitching and squabbles over there, count me out.... I've got 4 kids so I have enough of that at home LOL!!!!! [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

I feel the same way Donna, although it was never my favourite DH bbs by a long way. I'm like you in that most of the time, I can't even be bothered logging in over there b/c it just the same old shit. I find the the great majority of the threads lack any real substance and too many are full of innuendo re the size of his todger (been there, done that! [img]tongue.gif[/img] lol) and that's not what it's about for me anymore.

Unfortunately, I tend to blame him for the actions of his more over-zealous, nutjob type fans and that's so unfair b/c it's not the poor sod's fault that a good percentage of his fanbase are certifiable, but that's how I feel. They make me so bloody irritated and annoyed that I tend to project those feelings onto on him (although I'm sure that if he knew, he wouldn't give a rat's arse! *g*)

Dryzabone · May 26th, 2004, 09:31 PM

Thanks ladies, I wish I could say I feel better, but then give it some time, just plain foolish.

Reading some of the replies clarified it, bullying, just the kind of thing that happened at school. Remembers the wonderful caring posts on Sony, especially the one where we were disgraceful and should all be ashamed of ourselves...guess it never changes.

Oh and once upon a time I used to enjoy it too. Usually when agitated I would use DH/SG music to calm me, not this time it actually made it worse because I have projected the actions of fans onto him and that alone makes me sad.

[ May 26, 2004 06:36 PM: Message edited by: Dryzabone ]

returns home from trip out and the cleaners have been in *sighs* knows which side the bread is buttered now loud and clear.

[ May 26, 2004 10:02 PM: Message edited by: Dryzabone ]

**Dyan** · May 27th, 2004, 03:12 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Dryzabone:

Wanders back to add, as a fan I have to be true to myself and be honest in supporting that artist. I have made some very impulsive decisions in the last week or so because I felt things were just so very wrong, and before it clouded my view of the artist, I backed off and told myself the artist was in NO way responsible for others actions. I will not support what I believe is wrong.

And yet, we know that things don?t happen in a vacuum. It?s hard to know who and what starts the balls rolling. The artist isn?t responsible for other?s actions. But the artist is involved (as we've all seen from time to time), and I can?t forget that either. I just don?t know where that line is. Sometimes I wish that I could be a little mouse to see the who/what/where. Other times, I think not knowing is best because it keeps the fan aspect pure.

In the end, I think Barb is 100% on point about being honest to who we are and in our support.

*thinks*

I think I know where the line falls for me. If I can't be in a position to ask 'what the dickens were you thinking???', then I think I'd rather keep the fan part pure and not know at all. It's sort of looking behind the curtain to see the wizard. Once we do that, everything changes. So I either want to be involved and know or stay on the audience side of the curtain and love the show. But this in-between stuff that we see too often gets too ............. I dunno, weird.

At least for me. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dryzabone · May 27th, 2004, 03:26 AM

You know I can't believe the state I've allowed myself to get into, over what....it's so idiotic. I'm sure on the other side they're laughing at me whilst I'm trying to control a full fledged panic attack, I hate this it's such a waste. It's so easy to avoid but I was drawn in and I just can't compete. Sorry I'm tired.

Twizzle · May 27th, 2004, 03:53 AM

*hugs Barb* [img]graemlins/girl_hug.gif[/img]

Yes, I know that I said that I wouldn't ever go over to that evil place again *shudders* [img]wink.gif[/img] but, well you know me; I'm a nosy bitch and can't resist a good scrap so......

My main question is: is she or is she not working for DH? Judging by that article in her local rag, she is but is she now saying that she isn't? Also, why is an article that was printed in a small, local newspaper (that hardly anyone else in the world is going to read *lol*) deemed as being 'good promo' for DH? I can't imagine the population of that area being in the slightest bit interested in, or indeed even know who the f*** he is! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

p.s - not a mod, my arse! Maybe not a visible one but there are other ways to moderate a board, aren't there? [img]wink.gif[/img] LMAO

*skips off again*

Angelgirl · May 27th, 2004, 07:23 AM

Having read this entire thread and the one over there, I have to ask the question - when did it become the role of a fan to undertake promoting anyway ?

I really don't understand this. as I said earlier some 'fans' behaviour reflects (for me at times) on my view of DH & his music, management etc. but now I have to ask is this his fault or the 'fans fault or my fault for assuming that people who dictate how the fans should behave have some 'agenda' from DH or are they just assuming the role of 'mod'or 'PR'(doesn't he have someone he pays to do that anyway.) I only joined the Dzine in Nov 2002 so missed all the SG stuff but even I can see a big change in the way topics are posted and people's attitude. Positivity is good but so is realism. and even negativity is healthy at times. I rarely look there nowadays and post even less. I do miss the laughs and fun and feeling of community it had initially but that has all disapeared As for the article mentioned. I agree with Terry - thats not going to help his career or hinder it - it really was a bit of non news fit for a small circulating local paper! All this has spoiled my enjoyment of DH music and fandom, I am still a fan and will buy his cd when it comes out - more curiosity than anything, but am steering clear of all the 'other stuff' that goes around the fan base.
I hope this all makes sense, I knew what I wanted to say but as often happens it is hard to put into the written word!

[ May 27, 2004 07:38 AM: Message edited by: Angelgirl ]

DarrensPassion · May 27th, 2004, 08:54 AM

Barb, I hope you are feeling a little bit better today, sorry yesterday was such a bad one for you [img]graemlins/girl_hug.gif[/img]

I don't think anyone should ever feel forced or coerced into requesting or voting for an artist. Nor should they be made to feel less of a fan or a bad fan if they don't want to do this type of thing. Everyone should have the right to find their own level of fandom that they feel comfortable with. If that means just buying the CD and enjoying the music then that's fine [img]smile.gif[/img]

For me personally, I will only make requests or do voting if Ifeel like doing so. And that's how it should be, up to the individual. I think perhaps maybe too much of this sort of thing on a mass scale is counter productive in the end as has been proved in the past and in any case that is what the record label should be doing. It's really their job to promote the artist not the fans. However, a little gentle support from fans here and there doesn't harm.

There seems to be a pressure cooker type atmosphere building and the fanbase really needs to get back to just enjoying the music and the artist without all this stress and tension.

Hands round the [img]graemlins/phone.gif[/img] 's and hopes everyone can relax a little [img]smile.gif[/img]

Janie xx

Angelgirl · May 27th, 2004, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by DarrensPassion:
Barb, I hope you are feeling a little bit better today, sorry yesterday was such a bad one for you [img]graemlins/girl_hug.gif[/img]

I don't think anyone should ever feel forced or coerced into requesting or voting for an artist. Nor should they be made to feel less of a fan or a bad fan if they don't want to do this type of thing. Everyone should have the right to find their own level of fandom that they feel comfortable with. If that means just buying the CD and enjoying the music then that's fine [img]smile.gif[/img]

( A very good point and I agree, before the net there was (as far as I know) no pressure to be a certain level of fan)

For me personally, I will only make requests or do voting if Ifeel like doing so. And that's how it should be, up to the individual. I think perhaps maybe too much of this sort of thing on a mass scale is counter productive in the end as has been proved in the past and in any case that is what the record label should be doing. It's really their job to promote the artist not the fans. However, a little gentle support from fans here and there doesn't harm.

(Gentle support is good, voting on polls etc, it's this organised promo that I really don't want to get involved in or even understand. I read the hints about what happened in the US about Affirmation, perhaps someone could enlighten me, The episode with Schooly illustrates how fans can cause trouble.)

There seems to be a pressure cooker type atmosphere building and the fanbase really needs to get back to just enjoying the music and the artist without all this stress and tension.

(That would be great if that could happen but I think (some) people are on a roll now and may find it hard to get back to this level of fanship!)

Hands round the [img]graemlins/phone.gif[/img] 's and hopes everyone can relax a little [img]smile.gif[/img]

Janie xx

As always Janie you add clarity to my rambling thoughts. Also cannot get the hang of writing within quotes yet !! sorry

[ May 27, 2004 07:55 AM: Message edited by: Angelgirl ]

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